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, actually, who brought us to the moon and did the impossible, remember now, 40 years after that last mission to the moon surface that anything is possible. i don't want to give away our sunday night "fly me to the moon" special but i want to give you a teaser, what made them so special. >> we are not thinking about what goes wrong, worry is a wasted emotion. it clouds clear thinking that is absolutely needed when something is wrong. >> i didn't have guts i knew what i was doing. i didn't go to the moon not to come back. >>neil: did you think you might die? >> we thought our chances were about 10 percent. >>neil: did you hear that? 10 percent. one out of ten chance of coming out that disaster alive. that was then. this is now. amazing. folks in washington, dc, could take a cue from these guys. to our market watcher. i don't see that bravery today. but it is what it is. >>guest: it is nowhere to be found. maybe the chance of that 40 years ago is 10 percent and the chance of the fiscal cliff and higher taxes killing the economy is probably 50 percent and, yes, you are right, we are still not fi
in taxes. guess what? they raised the taxes and never cut the spending. there is reason for us to be cautious about that. there has to be a way through this. maybe it will take the market starting to send a signal and people taking actions in anticipation of this raising of the taxes. do you know an economist that doesn't believe we will not go into a recession. >>neil: the markets do not lately seem to be too worried. do you think no deal is better than a bad deal? >>guest: the only thing we can do is to make a deal. i think the american people deserve it. if we don't get it, i really worry about the country. i do worry. i am in discussions with people about this nuclear option. i am in discussions with people about the immigration reform issue. we could have discussions about this. i don't think the democrats want this to go over the cliff. not the majority of them. i pray not. >>neil: one seems to be tempting the other. >>guest: it is a game of chicken. i don't believe it will happen. i don't think anyone wants it to happen. and sequestration is looming as of january 1. in t
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